Cross Gen Sisters
13 years apart in age, thousands of miles apart in location, but sisters forever! Join Keisha (Gen X) and Chantal (Millennial) as they share unfiltered takes on everything from entertainment and their favorite internet finds to relatable stories about navigating this wild world - all while lovingly teasing each other like only siblings can.
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7 - ‘Nobody Wants This,’ Nasty Neighbors, When Fashion Trends Return, and Boosie’s Homophobia
This episode starts off hot with Chantal going off on a bird-feeding neighbor. [1:14] Then in Today I Learned the sisters react to the news of McDonald’s newest Big Mac and an interesting tidbit about Gwyneth Paltrow’s goop. [16:41]
Next in Pop & Gen: Quick Hits, the sisters pay homage to the latest celebrities we’ve lost including two actors who played multiple iconic roles, and discuss trailblazing journalist Connie Chung’s influence on girls and women. Then they shift tones and talk Ryan Murphy’s unique brain and his upcoming show All’s Fair starring Niecy Nash, Sarah Paulson, and Kim Kardashian?? And a nostalgic Upworthy article leads to a fun review of now useless skills like memorizing phone numbers. [22:43]
That’s followed by Pop & Gen: Deep Dives, where the pair chat about current fashion trends like crop tops and ankle socks, whether there’s an age limit on certain looks, and how they feel about trends returning. [39:25]
Then it’s time for On Our Screens and the sisters excitedly dig into the return of early aught stars Kristen Bell and Adam Brody in their new Netflix show, “Nobody Wants This.” They also review the latest season of the hot mess that is ‘Love is Blind’ and the documentary ‘Love on the Run’ about the prison guard who helped her convict paramour escape. [50:13]
The show wraps up with Through Our Earbuds talking about a moving segment during a recent episode of the ‘Higher Learning’ podcast and yukking it up with 'The Giggly Squad' pod. [58:31]
Also, October is Breast Cancer Awareness month and the sisters also get vulnerable as they recount how Keisha’s previous bouts with breast cancer affected the family.
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I went to her door and I knocked on. She goes oh, I'm so sorry. I do that to feed the birds and my cat loves to play with the birds. I said I know what type of bitch you are. Her cat loves to play with the birds. Yes, Before the cat tries to kill the birds.
Keisha:It kills them, that's what they do Exactly.
Chantal:So I was like you're one of them, dumb bitches. So she literally feeds the birds sunflower seeds. The sunflower seeds are all over my balcony and bird shit is all over the railing, and so when Capri goes out to pee, he's like it's disgusting, keisha, it's disgusting, it's unsanitary, unsanitary. So you have, and so it's dropping, and so I asked her to please stop. Do you think she stopped? No, I go outside this morning on top of after seeing the sewage this dumbass has there's now at more bird shit. I'm like this dumb bitch is still feeding these birds. Why are you feeding birds sunflower seeds? You know what my today I learned is today I learned I could snatch a bitch. I could snatch a bitch because I don't let me go up there a second time. Don't let it happen.
Keisha:Hello, welcome to Cross-Gen Sisters. I'm Keisha.
Chantal:I'm the older sister. And hey y'all, I'm Chantal the younger sister. Hey, sis.
Keisha:How's it going? It's rhetorical, you don't have to answer, I actually already know. So let's just get into the chit chat. My eyes are turning against me, me. It's like overnight they decided you know what, we're old and you're not going to be able to see anything. I went to the movies. I went to the Alamo with Kirsten a couple weeks ago. You know the Alamo.
Keisha:At the end they bring your bill and the theater is still kind of dark. They turn on these low level lights, but at the stage in life where I and my eyes are, I can't see, one because the print is so tiny and two because it's dark. And so I'm just you know, my phone is like six feet from my face. I'm trying to read the print and also like I don't want to pull out my phone and turn on the flashlight because it just reminds you of older people who I know. And so my friend Kirsten. She's like do you want me to sign it and fill out the total for you? And I was like thank you, my friend, who is 10 years younger and has better eyes than I do.
Chantal:That's a good friend years younger and has better eyes than I do. That's a good friend. Well, if it makes you feel any better. Keesh, our mother's procreation partner, has terrible, horrific eyesight.
Keisha:So it's, I know it's hereditary. So our cousins, uncle, almost all wear glasses or contacts.
Chantal:Yeah, and you don't wear contacts or glasses. Right, you wear contacts. Yeah, I wear contacts.
Keisha:We didn't all get LASIK.
Chantal:Excuse me. Yeah, I chose vision. Okay, I chose, I want to have such good vision. I want to see Jesus, and I do. I see him every morning. So, yeah, I think that you should consider LASIK.
Keisha:Maybe it's been a long enough time where I would feel more comfortable doing it. It's just expensive.
Chantal:Not if you get it on Groupon, like I did.
Keisha:I'm glad that worked out for you, but I don't trust that, especially when it comes to medical stuff.
Chantal:Like I don't want to bargain get it, but it was an esteemed facility. Like did my thorough research, did my due diligence and I felt the exact same way. I was like this is very sketch that you guys are on Groupon, but it was a top rated LASIK surgery centers in Austin when I lived there at the time and that was almost 10 years ago. Can you believe it? Next year will be 10 years since I had LASIK eye surgery. Oh, wow, yeah. Like I have on these glasses right now for, like, looking at computers, but when I take them off it's better. When I don't have them I'm just wearing these glasses for, like, the blue light or whatever you call it, and I can maintain into my later years. So I'm just saying maybe not a groupon if you don't feel comfortable, but I highly recommend considering LASIK because it's the best thing I've ever invested in besides my dog. Wow, yes.
Keisha:That was a good. That was a good feel for LASIK. Maybe I'll look into that for next year. I can't handle any more medical procedures this year with surgery on both my feet and the recovery. Just I never want to have anything done to my feet again. I need.
Chantal:I felt so immobile and loss of independence and yeah, and you live that is not accessible or friendly to those who it it is not.
Keisha:I am so much more and I hate to be one of those people who's like now that this happened to me, I am so much more aware. I was aware of people with physical disabilities in the city before and, you know, always tried to be respectful. But now I'm like ultra aware whether it's someone who is temporarily walking around in crutches because, oh my gosh, it's one thing to be wearing these thick ass inflexible surgical shoes. It's another thing to also have to use crutches to get around because the subway sucks for that. You're walking like eight miles to get to your side of the platform. I could go on, but we got a show to do. How has your weekend been so far?
Chantal:Oh, my goodness. As you said you know how I am I had a fire drill this morning at home not an actual fire drill, which would not surprise me if that also happened. I cannot wait to leave this place, but I've had a very chill weekend to happen. I cannot wait to leave this place, but I've had a very chill weekend, I am very proud to say, before we get to the fire drill, that happened at my apartment this weekend.
Chantal:I had the pleasure of participating in the Susan G Komen More Than Pink Walk and it was the honor of a lifetime to be able to do that. And your honor, keisha, because you are a breast cancer survivor and you are a warrior, one of the strongest people I know. And so me and my little pup we walked in your honor and it was emotional because I met so many survivors and so many women who are dealing with the terrible disease. But just to see the women who were 25, 30 years on remission, it was just beautiful to see them in their light and their joy, wearing their tutus and their pink, seeing the little kids wearing I wear pink for my mom. That made me cry because I saw like a five-year-old girl who said I'm here for you, mommy. Her mom gave her this big hug. Her mom had her hair shaved. I was just like, wow, like this affects everyone of all walks of life no-transcript and it was just a very, very fulfilling experience. That was really, really great.
Keisha:That's amazing. I'm so touched that you and Capri did that For the 10 listeners. Capri is a toy multi-poo so he's well. He used to be like seven pounds. You said he's gained a couple pounds.
Chantal:Nine and ten pounds.
Keisha:He's getting thick In any case, he's a little guy. He's got little legs, looks like a cute little blonde teddy bear and he did the whole. It was a 5k, right, no?
Chantal:it was 2k 2k.
Keisha:I was so proud I'm proud of both of you and the pictures were adorable. I loved his little neckerchief that said it said I'm walking for my aunt I wear pink for my aunt, yeah yeah, it was adorable he was the star.
Chantal:I was like, oh my goodness. And I appreciate how people asked can I take care of your dog? Can I pet your dog? I just appreciate the decency because so many people will go up to Capri and grab him and I just appreciate the fact that they were being so kind. Yes, capri was the star of the show, as he normally is.
Keisha:I mean, he's like a natural model.
Chantal:He is, and you know his side eyes Whenever this one, and he doesn't like kids. Um, he, he cannot stand children, so neither, neither does ollie. Yeah, he's like I'm the only cute little one around here, back up, back up, and so this little girl tried to hug him and he barks at her. He just looked at her. I was like okay enough, he does not like children. I will say with.
Keisha:Ollie, I think in particular he doesn't like toddlers. I think it's because they have a certain energy that he senses it's very frenetic, like you don't know what the fuck they're going to do. Then go left, then go right, zigzag up down, bounce around. They could jump on you. I think he senses that and he's like uh-uh, so senses that. And he's like uh-uh, so he will bark. And so I have to be careful if we encounter a toddler, because I don't want them to touch him or try to touch him, and I've had to tell, I've had like well-mannered toddlers be like can I pet your doggy? I'm like you can try, but he's he's very shy and he's kind of scared of of little, of little kids and he's not, he's not with it.
Keisha:Anyway, that being said, I never thought that I would be someone, that someone else would walk or do any kind of, you know, fundraising walk challenge run in my honor. So it was kind of surreal when you said that you were going to do that. I was very touched and I also didn't. I don't think I realized just how much my having breast cancer twice impacted the people in my life who care about me and you know you saying that you did this walk in my honor is like a reminder of how it impacts other people, and also our sister, natasha, who designed these beautiful resin female body figurines and they're like in bikinis with nice bouncy boobs and she donated them to, I think, breast cancer survivors and people who are still going through it, and someone sent her a really sweet note.
Chantal:I'll see if I can find it and ask her if she's okay with me sharing it, because I thought it was very lovely. Her resins are gorgeous. Like they're stunning the body sculptures she does.
Keisha:I have one in the centerpiece of my living room and it's just gorgeous. Oh, she said they are very gorgeous. Um, so she sent one woman a breast cancer awareness statue. She said she decorated the box with pink ribbons and tissue paper. She's going to use the proceeds to join and donate to the Susan G Komen Breast Cancer Awareness Walk in Vegas this year, which is where she lives, and it is super cute. I'll also ask her if I can post it on our socials. And so she got a review and it says hello, I received my package. All I could do is cry these statues are absolutely amazing. The free gift makes me believe there are still good people in this world. I'm going to put them on display at my breast cancer awareness event on the 16th of october. It was a pleasure doing business with you.
Chantal:Take care oh yeah, yeah, that's. That's very special. But to pivot to the fire drill, I woke up this morning to a disgusting smell and it turns out my kitchen sink is backed up and when I went to do the garbage the the sink disposal it started shooting up like like the fourth of july, and I'm sorry to give you guys that visual, but this is what I had to deal with this morning and I cannot, in the words of Tokyo, tony, I cannot wait to get the fuck ASAP about here. So yeah, that was my weekend in a nutshell, sis, how was your weekend my?
Keisha:weekend's been great Not as naughty as yours. The weather this weekend has been fantastic. There's an account I follow on instagram. I'm, I feel, like a weather fangirl following this account because I'm always telling people about it. It's called ny metro weather and it's this man who is I think he is officially a meteorologist or he's just a climate enthusiast and he just started providing weather updates for the New York, new Jersey, area.
Keisha:And I found him on Twitter maybe a year or two years ago and I was one of, I think, maybe like two, three thousand followers and he just would post like the what, like the weather in a like, one sentence, like and talk about the vibe. So like, the vibes today are good, the dew points are low, you can go outside and walk your dog and be happy, and he'll give it like a rating out of 10, on a scale of 1 to 10. And he said yesterday was a 10 out of 10. We still rarely get 10 out of 10 days in New York, so it's major. So yesterday I went to the park with Ollie and our friends, piper and her dog. We walked to Prospect Park just like, I think, like two miles and just hung out in the park and it was fun.
Chantal:Beautiful day, dogs loved it.
Keisha:That sounds like the perfect New York afternoon afternoon. I love this for you. Yeah, we just have you know. This is the two if we're lucky two month window where the weather is really good, like this is my weather like 72, there's a gentle breeze, the sun is is like behaving itself, not acting like it's out to attack everyone. Yeah, so I'm gonna spend as much time outside the next few weeks as I can I love that, sis.
Chantal:Well, that leads me to my next point of let's dig into some hot topics, shall we?
Keisha:hot topics. What shows us okay?
Chantal:that leads me to my next part, and let's start the show with some. Today I learned well, I'm up first this week for today I learned. And today I learned that mcdonald's is coming out with a chicken big mac. Did you hear about this?
Keisha:no, what's a? I don't understand what's. How's it different from like a chicken sandwich?
Chantal:it literally is just taking a big mac and replacing the beef with chicken, and I'm pretty sure this has been done already from those who would like to have this. I just don't understand how this is groundbreaking, because if you wanted a chicken big mac, all you have to do is ask for a chicken sandwich, any big mac, and just put the chicken in the big. I don't understand how this is. They use the popular, popular twitch uh streamer sorry I can't talk today kai sanat to promote it and I was just like okay, how is this news?
Keisha:what I don't? I don't think I've ever had a big mac. What is special about it?
Chantal:so it's known, because it is three buns and with three buns you're putting you're putting the meat in between each of the buns and you're putting lettuce, tomato pickles and what's special Big Mac sauce. And I got to say the Big Mac sauce is actually tasty. I remember one of the first times I had a Big Mac sauce I asked mom if I could have one. She goes you're not eating that big ass burger, what do you mean? Like that's huge. And it was huge and I couldn't finish it.
Chantal:But the moment that Big Mac sauce touched my lips it was an experience I don't think I'll ever forget. But that big when you're little and the day comes and you're able to graduate from the kids meal oh, period game over. So, mom, let me get a Big Mac. And I literally will never forget the taste of it. And so I have not had a Big Mac in years because, wow, is it a lot of food, because I don't need all of that. But I think I might go try the chicken Big Mac. I think I might do it. I just will not eat the entire thing because that is excessive, but the Big Mac sauce is really good.
Keisha:Yeah, I don't think I've ever had this. That's just a lot of food, like three buns or one and a half buns well, it's three well, yeah, two and a half buns, it's one and a half buns.
Chantal:Right, you said so. You need two top of bun, top of bun, bottom of bottom of bun bun. So that's three buns. That's not three buns, that's one, that's one and a half buns. You mean to tell me that when you have a duo bun, you call it not a one bun or you call it I think that is one that I think that one top of a bun, that's a one bun. What is mcdonald's called, though I don't know they call it, they call it the big mac. I think that one top of a bun.
Chantal:That's a one bun. What does McDonald's call that? I don't know. They call it the Big Mac. How do they describe it? They don't say they have like buns. They say you get a Big Mac If you are going to make a hamburger. You have two buns. It's not one bun. Okay.
Keisha:So technically, let's see, technically they're both right. They're specified as the top bun, the middle bun and the bottom bun. So what I said? Yeah, so okay, big mac, great I'm.
Chantal:I don't care about this chicken sandwich, sorry I knew you wouldn't, but I do so I was like.
Keisha:You know what I love I'm not saying like, why are you telling me this? I'm just saying like, I'm not going to go eat it.
Chantal:I know you wouldn't. You don't even eat McDonald's. What Since when? I don't think I've seen you eat McDonald's in years. When do you?
Keisha:eat. Mcdonald's I ate McDonald's with you last Halloween when we came home from that party.
Chantal:Again. What was that a year ago?
Keisha:Have you had mcdonald's since? Yes, I actually had mcdonald's on thursday night I'm not proud of this.
Chantal:I mean, sometimes you just gotta go to mickey d's. My version of mickey d's is taco bell. Taco bell has had me in a chokehold since I was a little girl. Yes, I'm aware. Oh, I love me a good taco bell. Oh, it will never get old. What did fergie say? I still go to taco bell. Drive through raw's hill, I don't care, I'm still real, no matter how many records I sell. Okay, I love me some taco bell, okay. So what about you, sis? What did you learn? Okay?
Keisha:I learned from my rewatch of Modern Family and maybe you knew this that the origin of Goop the name of Gwyneth Paltrow's company is based on added two O's. Because Peter Amell told her successful internet companies have double O's in their name and she wanted a name, a word, that could mean anything or it could mean nothing. So she added the double o between her initials and that is how she came up with the name goop did you know.
Chantal:That's why she came up with that yeah you're not impressed? No, but good for her. It's a catchy name. I gotta say who. I think it sounds gross, but it just does. It reminds me of sounds gross, but it just reminds me of the Nickelodeon slime. It reminds me of boogers. That's disgusting, but good for her. She's a billionaire, right? She's like a billionaire, so she's getting her money some way. Oh, I don't know.
Chantal:I do think she retired from acting and it's just Wow, okay, so hard for acting, and it's just, I actually was an actress, wow, um, okay.
Keisha:So now that we're both that much more well informed, why don't we move on to pop and jen.
Chantal:All righty, first up this week in our pop and j quick hits. All right, let's do this. Did you hear about the Granda and Maggie Smith past? And she's iconic. She is iconic. I was really sad to hear that.
Keisha:She was 89, which is a good. I mean mean that's a good long life she and she had. She had some roles that will look down in history cinematically and whatever you, whatever the television version of that word is. One of my favorite roles that she's taken on was playing the Dowager Countess Grandmama on Downton Abbey. She, queen of the one, the cutting, biting, shady one-liners oh, just fabulous. Love her in that. How about?
Chantal:you. I mean I love her. I was introduced to her in 2001 in Harry Potter. You know I'm a Harry Potter girly, so, um, seeing her in that, she was just so endearing and protective of Harry in the in the movie and she just seemed like this motherly figure, um, and she just was just. I know her career spans decades before that, but that's what how I was introduced to her. But yeah, she was a delight and I loved her accent, like I know she. You know people in the UK they have all different variations of accents, but hers was just so demanding and just her presence and just yeah. So she had a storied career and may she rest in peace.
Chantal:One thing I will say people really grind my gears when they say gone too soon when it comes to someone who was like 95. Like when James Earl Jones died, they were like you said this last week or last episode. I know, but I'm gonna say it again because they said it. May she rest in peace, but gone too-. What do you mean? Gone too soon, just like? Are we for real? I just will never understand it. So that's just what grinds my gears Gone too soon.
Keisha:Also, I wonder like how did if those people were still alive? How did they feel about still being alive at this point? Were they still enjoying their life? Because that's really what matters.
Chantal:I feel like Cicely Tyson when she passed she was like finally.
Keisha:Yeah, she was like I've done all the things.
Chantal:Like what is there left to do? Yeah, so rest in peace to these icons. Speaking of rest in peace, we also lost John Amos, and so RIP.
Keisha:Yeah, so I found out about this through. We have an ERG at work employee resource group for the Black employees and their allies, I guess, and someone posted that John Amos died and that he apparently died over a month ago. And that he apparently died over a month ago. But we're just finding out and, more egregiously, some of his family is just finding out and there's just a lot of mystery surrounding his death, including allegations of elder abuse, so I don't know what was going on. I believe he was 83 when he died. I hope that he had a good life and I hope that there was nothing suspicious about his death and I appreciate his contributions to television, film and I know he inspired so many actors' generations.
Chantal:Yeah, what a legend, what an icon. May he rest in peace as well.
Keisha:Indeed, did you hear that Ryan Murphy, like the internet is not working, he has a new legal drama coming out starring Glenn Close and Niecy Nash. Starring Glenn Close and Niecy Nash, tiana Taylor, naomi Watts and apparently Kim K and I believe Kim K also was in Ryan Murphy's American Horror Stories. I don't watch that, it's too gruesome for me, but he likes her and asks for her in this legal drama that is called all's fair and she's apparently going to have like a significant role in this series which like wow, I guess she really is like cementing her status as an actress, because this is a heavy hitter cast. This is not like like glenn close, sarah paulson, nisi nash. These are not like chumps, like. These actresses are esteemed and super talented.
Chantal:So we'll see if the show is good I mean, I think that it makes sense because she is a legal girly. I don't know, she's in law school. I think she didn't pass the bar. I don't know she did pass the bar, oh, she did, so she's a lawyer.
Keisha:Wait, did she pass the bar? I thought she finally passed it.
Chantal:I don't think she did, because we would know if she was a lawyer. Yeah, I think she didn't pass it, so she's taking the test again. I could be wrong, but I feel like we would have heard if she became a lawyer, it wouldn't have been big news because she would have proved billion, ha, ha, suckers, because good for her. I think that it makes sense, ryan Murphy, when he you are part of his universe, you are a part of it forever. Ie, niecy Nash, sarah Paulson they go together with Ryan Murphy real bad, and it just makes sense. So I had to see that. Did you hear about the other one that he's coming up with, where story is going to star Jeremy Pope and Anthony Ramos, where there is a STI that makes you beautiful? Wait, what is this called? It is called Let Me Get In. I don't know what the name is. I just saw it online and I was like what the hell is happening.
Keisha:Isn't that show the Substance? No, or is that something else?
Chantal:That's something completely different. That's not the same, but it's starring anthony ramos. Ramos gives me and jeremy pope, but it's basically going to be about when you get an sti, how it beautifies you and I don't know. I don't know. Ryan murphy has a sick head. I would like to work with him one day, so I'm not gonna say too much about him. But yes, that is. That is what it's going to be about all right, like I said, the man stayed busy, booked and busy.
Keisha:Okay, don't play with him because he's gonna and I, yeah, I agree. I looked it up and Kim passed the baby bar. I am not really sure what that is, so she passed something. Anyway. Have you seen connie chung back on the scene promoting her new book, her memoir?
Chantal:you're gonna be mad at me, but I don't know who connie chung is that's amazing I have no clue who that is oh my gosh.
Keisha:So connie chung is, she's kind of like the chinese barbara walters.
Chantal:So she's Maury's wife.
Keisha:Yeah, she's Maury Povich's wife. Are you kidding? Maury Povich is her husband. They've been married forever.
Chantal:What Are you kidding? Okay, I know who this is. Didn't she have a talk show?
Keisha:I don't know that she had a talk show, but she had a news show.
Chantal:She's a journalist, oh yes, okay, I know's a journalist. Oh, yes, okay, I know who she is. Oh my gosh, she's married to Mar-. Oh, this is it. This is an amazing dynamic.
Keisha:This is what gets you to know who she is.
Chantal:Oh my gosh, that is so cool. What a power couple Wow.
Keisha:And they seem you know, you don't know what goes on people's personal lives, but they seem like they really love each other.
Chantal:I'm sorry, but if you go to her Instagram, the first thing that pops up is her talking about something, and the quotations say I could see the sperm swimming in their eyes. What the hell is Connie?
Keisha:That's funny.
Chantal:OK, connie, all right. No, I didn't see that. But am I going to go read it? Probably not, because you know I haven't been a reader in a few years, but I might listen to it.
Keisha:well, I'm sure I mean I'm not. This is not really about her book. I'm, you know, mentioning that she's back on the scene because she's promoting the memoir. I don't know if I will read it either, but that's because I haven't been reading anything. But what I also wanted to point out is because she's so iconic as a groundbreaking female journalist in a time when it was really difficult for women to be treated seriously and to ascend. She, of course, made an impression on many people in Asian communities, especially Chinese, and there is a generation, called Generation Connie, of Asian girls and women who were named after Connie Chung, and there's a picture of her with them, some of them in this New York Times article that I linked and also, I think, on her Instagram, and it's just so touching. It's like it just shows the power again not to be cliche of representation, because some of these girls named Connie are also journalists now, because they took it seriously that they were named after her, so just thought that was cool I love that.
Chantal:Good for her go.
Keisha:Connie chung yeah, well, geez, that's quite the roundup this week, sis speaking of people, back on the scene, jaleel white of family matters fame. Most people probably know him by his character's name, erkel, steve Erkel. He wrote a memoir called Growing Up Erkel which is being released on November 19th, and he was on the talk talking about his time growing up in Hollywood and being a child star and being so recognizable as Urkel and that being like sticking with him for decades. And he said again, speaking of representation, he would have black men. He said black men. Actually any man who wore glasses would come up to me and say you know, man, you wearing glasses made it easier for me to wear glasses when I was growing up because it made it cool. I was like, yeah, you just never know who you're impacting.
Chantal:That's dope. I mean, did I do that? Everyone says that I will randomly bust out saying that, so his impact is very, very strong. Yeah, iconic, iconic, I love that.
Keisha:So for a Jen part of Poppin' Jen, I came across this article in Upworthy I like Upworthy because it tends to be positive news and it says people born before 1990 are sharing their now useless but 100% nostalgic skills. And since you were just on the cusp of that, I wanted to go through a couple of these and see if you know anything that I've been talking about Making brown paper bag book covers. Did you ever make a brown paper bag book cover? Oh yeah, we had to do that because we had to have book covers and they weren't just like go on Amazon, order some book cover, so people would make them and then decorate them.
Chantal:Why do you need a book cover?
Keisha:Because you don't own the books that you get during the school year. They're borrowed and you don't want to damage them.
Chantal:Oh, I'm kidding. Yeah, we did. We did the stretchy ones. We had the fabric. We didn't have the paper bags. We had the stretchy fabric. We had the fabric. We didn't have the paper.
Keisha:We didn't have the paper bags with a stretchy fabric for our books. So you had a book cover but you didn't have, like, the grocery bag that you cut apart and fold into. Yeah, it was basically like an arts and craft that is so good? Oh no, we did not do that hey, we were doing what, we were doing the best we could why I would use wrapping paper before I used.
Keisha:Uh, some people did, but wrapping paper rips too easily, like. Think about it if you're putting, like, several books in your backpack that are wrapped with wrapping paper, that's gonna tear like, tear, like my paper bag is sturdier, anyway, how about do you memorize phone numbers?
Chantal:I used to. I know every one of my immediate family's phone number, but anyone outside of it sorry, I don't know your phone number Because I just in case of emergency, like I, have to remember y'all's phone numbers.
Keisha:I don't know your phone number Because I just in case of emergency, like I have to remember y'all's phone numbers and do you think the fact that most of us have had these phone numbers for probably 20 years?
Chantal:helps with that? Absolutely, because none of us change our phone numbers. So I've had the same phone number for 17 years, so I'm never changing it If I got a new phone phone number.
Keisha:Do you think that you memorize it? No one more. Did you ever make a mixtape from a radio?
Chantal:no, but I did do it for voicemails or voicemails what do you mean? I like I would do like remix, like yo yo, yo, yo. It's Chantal, thanks, sorry I missed your call and I would have music play in the background, like it could be. Like you know music playing, I don't know, I would just remix music. That's not the same thing. Well, it's a version of it. How, what was? It's a version of it. How is that a version of it? You're?
Keisha:making it. You're making a remix like a mixtape. You're not. A mixtape is not a remix. You don't have a, do you?
Chantal:know what a mixtape is. Yeah, I didn't mix, I didn't do a mixtape, I just did. I did like if I had a crush on someone or whatever. I did lime wire, I'm a lime wire, limewire era.
Keisha:So that's my point you did not have to. You don't remember listening to the radio, waiting for a particular song to play and then pressing record on either a cassette player or a cassette recorder, or a, if you were lucky enough to have a burner no, that was amazing amazing the daytime chat show on cbs.
Keisha:They had hosts fill in for akbar this week, different hosts each day. They had tabitha brown Brown, they had Yvette Nicole Brown Unrelated as far as I know and they had Ariana Maddox. When I saw her on I was like this is starting to become a really big running joke on this podcast because she literally is everywhere and I was just like, well, I can't not bring it up.
Chantal:So that was it. Congrats to you. But Nicole Brown, tabitha Brown, so happy for them, love them. I want nothing but the best for them and congratulations to them on co-hosting the talk.
Keisha:That's super huge let's see how it is very happy for those two I love it.
Chantal:I want them to do nothing but great everyone did very well and look beautiful. I'll leave that in time with the. They can do no wrong, love them. Well, that's fun. I love that. Well, that's quite the roundup this week, sis. Now let's get into some pop and Jen deep dive.
Keisha:I just have one deep dive. This week we kind of talked about this outside the podcast. I want to talk about fashion trends and how they skew toward the youngest generation. So like whatever Gen Alpha you know the big 14, 0 to 14, I think that's Gen Alpha Whatever they're wearing is considered like the coolest cutting edge. They somehow lead trends followed by gen z and then millennials, and then like anyone else is just not cool.
Keisha:Like clothing, most clothing designers are not checking for us, they're not designing for us, they're not trying to market towards us pandemic. I like don't know how to dress anymore. We came out of the pandemic and there's a lot of like leisure, like athleisure and comfort stuff, sweatpants, and I like you you probably would agree with this I was raised. We don't wear like sweatpants and stuff out in public, so it really took a while for me to come around like and just let go of the like. This is just as like a random social construct that you don't have to adhere to, and I still don't really wear sweatpants unless I'm like quickly running to the grocery store. But anyway, crop tops are a big thing again and everything is cropped. Jackets are cropped, shirts are cropped, button down shirts are cropped and like.
Keisha:I have had a battle with my waistline for most of my like life, since I was aware that I had a waistline and I wore crop tops when they were popular in like the late 90s and the early 2000s, when I was okay with my waistline especially when I lost my college 15 or freshman 15. I would wear crop tops. I had a lot more confidence, I think, when I was younger. As I got older I just became more self-conscious and now it just kind of like I don't think you should have a limit on age as far as what you can wear, but it just feels kind of weird to like wear a crop top again. I don't know, how do you feel?
Chantal:I love crop tops. I'm wearing two crop things. I know you love a crop top and I think it's great. I love crop tops. I lost a lot of weight this past year, and so I'm now having a new relation with my body, something that I didn't ever think I could do, and so I've just embraced this new part of me, and I love crop. It makes me feel sexy, but even before you all saw this weight.
Keisha:You were wearing crop tops and I applaud you for being comfortable wearing things that I personally don't feel comfortable wearing because I just in my head, yeah, I get it, I get it.
Chantal:I think I just was just like I'm wearing this for me, like I'm wearing it because it makes me feel comfortable, it makes me feel sexy, it makes me I think that from the perception for other people, like I used to dress for the people, but now I dress for me, I dress for my comfortability, I dress for my ease, I dress what makes me feel, you know, good in my body. And when I wear crop tops, I don't know, I just sound like so badass about it and wearing like crop top and baggy jeans or baggy sweatpants, like I am going to run errands after this, and I'm just like, okay, I'm going to wear my crops. To your point, I cringe if I even go to the mailbox in sweatpants because I just hear mom in my head being like girl, where the hell are you going? So that's something that I still deal with internally. But I'm going to wear crop top and baggy jeans going to the store, and so I just find I love it To your point. This is literally my like crop top, everything that's my aesthetic, everything that you're just being done with On a daily basis.
Chantal:In Los Angeles, people wear nothing. People don't wear clothes in Los Angeles and you walk out in a bra and leggings. That will never be me. I just think there's just some levels of just like I don't know decency. I don't know. I just feel like that's where I draw the line. You'll never see me outside with a sports bra, but yeah, I think that it's just I don't know. I see you feel very comfortable and I think it's the way you wear the crop top and baggy pants can be very sexy and cute. Okay, so you're pro crop?
Keisha:tops and baggy pants. Where do you stand on socks and the height of socks?
Chantal:there's a debate over literally whoever they're talking shit about. They're talking shit about me because I wear the leggings with little socks, all all the way up and with my sneakers. That's me Like up to where Like mid-calf ankle Up to your ankle Like you're past the ankle, okay, Because I think now people are talking about mid-calf.
Keisha:That's a bit too far, Like it just keeps going a little bit higher, a little bit higher.
Chantal:Stockings. You're wearing goddamn stockings. It's no longer socks. That's ridiculous. Put some damn stockings on and call it a day. That's too high, like right under the calf, is where I stop.
Keisha:Okay, yeah, I think those are ankle socks.
Chantal:Yeah, ankle socks. So I wear those because I am a gym girly now and I go to the gym, I wear my leggings and I wear my ankle socks. Yoo-hoo, it's really cute. It's so, la, and I used to be the one who judged those girlies, but now I am that girly, so I've embraced it.
Keisha:As you know, I also lost a significant amount of weight this year and I'm feeling good, or better, about my body working out as well. And I bought, I ordered, some exercise crop tops. I'm going to dip my toe back in the crop top water with the exercise, with the fitness wear.
Chantal:I love that. I just love fitness wear. It just makes me feel comfortable. But especially when it's cute and it doesn't look crazy like I. I like that cute. I like when the girlies wear, like the, the sports bra with the leggings but they have the jacket over it. That's cute. But when I see who will just bra out at the grocery store, I'm like can you save something for? Like illusion? I don't know, I just feel like you're not the gym right now. What are we doing?
Keisha:I just really applaud their boldness and their confidence.
Chantal:Girl, I can see her. I can see her. Areolas, Like that's what I mean, Not the girls who are just like, oh, I have to run, but like the ones who literally got the doubt, Got the goods on full display.
Chantal:You don't want to see areola next to the mangoes, I know I would like to get my peace without seeing your titties, and that that's all I have to say. Put more power to you. Woman, girl empowerment I'm not saying that at all. Love who you are, embrace your body. But there just are some looks that we just have to take into consideration.
Keisha:I don't know if I agree, but I do think that I can see how it's jarring. You go to the grocery store and you're like I have to take care of the wall. I'm just going to pick up some coffee beans and then veg. Before we wrap up this segment, I wanted to ask if you remember, speaking of trends, repeating crop tops, doc martens, are huge now you always talk about this they have.
Chantal:They're gonna keep going back. They're gonna keep re-regurgitating, resurging. You haven't regurgitating. I meant to say resurging. You know what the hell I meant. You always talk about doc mart and what do about, like what's the story behind it? They're researching and new people are discovering them. They're timeless shoes.
Keisha:That's not okay. That's not where this is going. Excuse me know-it-all. Remember when you came to visit me when I lived in LA, walking down Melrose and they have a Doc Martens store, and this was like 20 years ago, I think, and you were like it's like 16 years ago okay like that's really that much difference.
Keisha:Four years you're aging us okay, 16 years ago, or walking down Melrose, they have a dedicated Doc Martens store and you were like you really want Doc Martens and you hope that you get some. I think you wanted some for Christmas or your birthday and you were like, like everyone is wearing these and you're saying it to me like you were schooling me on something. And I was like, yeah, I went to high school in the 90s and I was into the grunge scene and I'm very familiar with Doc Martens, even though I never had a pair because they're so expensive. And you were like like, you were just so like floored by this information. So I always think about that when I see like the regurgitation of Doc Martens well, I love Doc Martens.
Chantal:I have yet to own a pair. I've worn some before, but they're also very heavy shoes to wear, like you have to really break them in, so I think that's why I don't own them, but they're really cute. Well, great stuff this week. As always, it's time for our last segment on our screens and through our earphones. Okay, so I'm starting with what's on my screen lately and I just have two quick hints.
Chantal:My first one is Nobody Wants this, starring Kristen Bell and Adam Brody. It is a 10, I think it's an episode series about this two people who meet each other and they just have this spark. This guy, adam Brody's character, just came out of a long-term relationship and you just see what clear communication looks like. You see what it's like for them to be very direct, very understanding of each other, what it's like to know what you want and being of a certain age and a certain place in your career and not beating around the bush. And as someone who's currently dating, I just found it was very, very, very reassuring and beautiful to see that. Okay, this is something that exists and that people are talking about, and I just think that one the humor is hilarious. I think the banter between Kristen Bell she's a delight in this show. Even her husband, dak Shepard, said that the chemistry between her and Anna Brody was really insane. But yeah, I really like this show and I hope there's a season two what made you want to watch this?
Keisha:Netflix suggested it. It just doesn't seem like your usual show that you would choose.
Chantal:I just kept hearing people talk about it and I was like, oh, okay, well, what is this show people keep talking about? And then I watched the first episode. It helps you immediately because Kirsten Bell is a comedic queen. Like she is really really funny and she's really good at this. Just the comedic timing is just really good. So it helped me and, as a Capricorn with ADHD, you have about five minutes to get my attention and out the bat swinging the show. Just it captures you and so that's what did it for me. It was suggested it was rated like number one or two. Hey, I was like, oh, let me check it out. And it immediately got my, got my attention and I watched, I binge, watched it in one day, oh, and I even watched it again.
Keisha:So yeah, it's really good. You sold me when you told me that there was some comedy involved. I should have known because of Adam Brody, but yeah, it sounds great. I am going to check that out. I saw them being interviewed, I think on like Access Hollywood, and they were reading tweets or I don't know what they call them on X now Shitters, I don't know. They were reading them from fans and one woman was like 20 years ago I was watching Adam Brody and crushing on him on the OC. And here I am 20 years later, at 34, crushing on Adam Brody in a Netflix show.
Chantal:And he looks great. They both look fantastic, he does.
Chantal:Yeah, they do. Early 30s both of them. So good for them for keeping that fountain of youth and staying unproblematic. That's what happens when you're an unproblematic white person. God lets you age gracefully, so good for them.
Chantal:And then my second show that I'm watching is Love is Blind, season seven. Just when I think each season gets more unhinged, no, we see the biggest narcissist gaslighter ever on this season. His name is Leo. He's insane. He, I'm convinced he murdered his family. He lost his mom, dad and grandma in a matter of like two years. But like he keeps on talking about the fact that he has a Rolex, he has so much money that the woman he dates he doesn't want them to to want him for his money. And I'm like, I'm convinced you killed your family. And then there is this 26 year old girl named Hannah, who is also just not ready to date and I don't think she should be for you.
Chantal:But we have a beautiful amount of Black representation in this season and I am obsessed with the end result of who ends up together. It's only six episodes in and it's going to have another series of episodes released next week Well, this week actually and so we'll be able to see them unfold like unfold on their honeymoon after getting married, but yes, it is so so good. Oh, not getting married, but getting engaged, but yes, it's so good. This season keeps you on your toes and, yeah, whoever does the casting for this show does a fantastic job. Do you think they've had lawsuits? This season is really good. Oh, okay, that's my season, because I actually it was a season I didn't give a damn about.
Chantal:All right, let's clarify. This season the casting is fantastic, really good, great, mainly because there's multiple Black people. That's why I said that. Excuse me, am I worthy? Am I going to be loved? Girl, you are so worthy and you're a badass bitch and you deserve nothing but good things. And you don't have to be upset this season, because I'm very pleased with how the black girls are treated. This season I will say that Girl. Well, yeah, that's what's got my attention lately. How about you Keish?
Keisha:I have one main show that captured my attention, or I shouldn't say show. It's a documentary on Netflix called Love on the Run. It's about the corrections officer, vicki White, who helped the prisoner, casey White escape, and I first heard about this story it took place in 2022, or like the main event took place in 2022 and in 2022, the main event took place in 2022, the Escape. I heard about it through a Lifetime movie. I don't remember hearing about it in the news and the Lifetime movie was pretty good. I think it starred Wendy McClendon-Covey Wendy McClendon-Covey, I think, is how you say her name.
Keisha:Anyway, so the story is Vicki White. She's a like a lonely, unassuming, middle-aged corrections officer in Alabama. She is a star employee at this detention center. She's been there for like 20 years and she falls in love with this sounds like sociopathic man, casey White, who's 10 years younger than she and had a record since Judy, or since he was a juvenile and as an adult he was charged with shooting at his girlfriend and killing her dog in the process, and he I think he was already convicted for something else in serving 75 years and then he was at the detention center to face charges for killing the dog and for attempted murder. So they fell in love. I don't know how he felt. I think he's a sociopath, so I don't think he felt anything. I think he conned her and she helped him escape.
Chantal:Yeah, I thought this was wild and yeah, that was a crazy story, ooh insane. I could have gone my whole life without hearing the math on sex.
Keisha:that was oh yeah, that oh my god, because they, you know of course they're listening in if they're making calls from the, from the jail yeah, yuck it just kind of goes back to what we talked about when we were talking about how to die alone and loneliness. People will do sometimes have companionship.
Chantal:Yeah, and look what ended up happening. So sad. Don't spoil it, they'll see, they watch it yeah, it was.
Keisha:It was good it was. It's easy to consume documentary. Thought they did a good job. And then I just want to give a shout out real quick to I'm catching up on Abbott Elementary. So I finished season three because I had some episodes to catch up on. I love the episodes Smoking and Party. I think they're probably like top five. So shout out to Abbott Elementary, can't wait for season four, watch it. So shout out to Aper Elementary, can't wait for season 4, watch it. Alright, let's move on to sounds through our earpuds. What you got did I say earpuds, I meant earbuds through our earbuds what you got this week, sis, I'll tell you.
Chantal:I'm listening to our Victoria Monet and Sabrina Carpenter. Victoria Monet just came out with a deluxe album. It's fantastic. I love her. And Sabrina Carpenter. Victoria Monet just came out with a deluxe album. It's fantastic. I love her and Sabrina Carpenter. I listened to it because I feel like she's everywhere and I was forced to listen to her, but she's actually really, really talented and really good. I'm obsessed with Bed Kim. I think it's fantastic. I will die on this. That is an interpolation of so Into you by Tamia. So interpolation of so Into you by Tamia. So shout out to her paying tribute to R&B icon. But yes, that's what I listen to Now on repeat. I love my R&B and pop girlies. They're really taking over and, yes, that's what I've got this week and they are so, so, so, so good.
Keisha:Did you listen to the whole sweet and sour album Serena Carpenter?
Chantal:not all of it. I'm still going through it because I keep repeating the same songs over and over again, so I haven't gotten through all of it.
Keisha:A co-worker recommended Juno and Coincidence, I believe, was the song oh, I like Juno. That's a good one it's a very eclectic album. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Chantal:She's a very talented, you can tell I. I appreciate that, thank you. She's buried out. You can tell us her up in the church or has some type of r&b inspiration, because she gets it. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm listening to. What about you?
Keisha:sis, I've been kind of musically disinterested lately. Even when I turn on, when I open the serious app, I feel like all the stations I I know all the songs, even the new ones like, please play something new, new anyway. So podcasts for me. This roundup higher learning is a podcast I listen to regularly the host for van lathan and rachel lindsey. They are two black elder millennials and van has a sister who's a lesbian and I thought it was really interesting. They were talking about Boosie and how he has a lesbian adult daughter who he says he loves but he hates her sin and doesn't want to have her around her younger siblings. To infect them with her sinful lifestyle is trash. So they started talking about how sad it is when parents treat their children like that who are part of the LGBT community. And Van's father passed away the year after, or 2021 I think, and he has mixed feelings about his dad. But ultimately he reveres his dad and he said you know, I don't know how my dad and my sister related with her being a lesbian and my dad having very concert like socially conservative viewpoints as a black man, and Rachel is like why don't you call her and ask her? So they call her. Her name is Ebony and they say Ebony, just so you know you're on the podcast. And Dan's like hey, sis, and they do the usual like sibling, like you, suck, fuck you, blah, blah, blah. How did dad, how did dad respond to you being a lesbian? And it was a very heartfelt, like unplanned and impromptu, like two minute vulnerability spill where she said basically that she knows that he loved her but he did not want to acknowledge that part of her. He didn't want to spend time with her partner. Her partner had children, her longtime partner had children. He didn't want to meet them, he didn't want her to talk about them, he didn't want her to talk about dating. And she said she just learned to like shut that part of her life off. And she said I loved him but it was very complicated and I could tell that really like hurt Van to hear about his dad. But I think it also speaks to how different relationships siblings can have with their parents. So shout out to them. Highly recommend it.
Keisha:It's the episode, I think, from Monday, the 29th of September, and then also my last one is I finally listened to Giggly Squad. I talked about that podcast in the last episode. It's Hannah Barner and Paige DeSorbo's podcast that is very successful is taken on the road and apparently they do really well because they sell out. It's fun. I really enjoy it. But oh my god, I caught a stray when they were talking about because they talk about all kinds of random stuff. They said yeah, you know, sometimes like my mom says funny things, like mom say things like they, like they answer the phone and they say this is she and they're like who says that? I was like. Oh my god. I say that is that I'm not anyone's mom, but I am mom age. Like is that a mom thing? I was just raised like that's. If someone calls and asks me, I say this is she what do other people say?
Keisha:very common, so don't feel bad is it just the younger like that?
Chantal:I think they're. I think it's a very common thing. I don't think it has anything to do with moms. I think they just probably associate it with their moms because they don't do it themselves. But I say that myself.
Keisha:So I know you do, because I feel like we're just taught to have manners like about certain you know cultural niceties. So anyway, I'm still gonna. I'm still gonna listen and watch, because it's a visual podcast, but like, oh no, so those are my two for this week.
Chantal:Oh fun. So much fantastic things to listen to and to watch. I don't know how I found time to get to it all, but I'm going to try. All right, y'all. And with that we're at the end again. Sadly, it's time to say goodbye, but we'll be back in two weeks. If you want to be notified about new episodes, see our recommendations and fun other stuff, follow us on instagram or crossgen sisters. You can email us at crossgen sisters at gmailcom. And if you like the podcast, help us grow it by following, rating, reviewing us on apple podcasts, spotify, youtube or wherever you get or listen to your podcast. Also, tell your sisters, brothers, friends, cousins and everyone else that you love about us. Thanks for listening y'all.
Keisha:Bye, love you sis Love, you sis Outro Music.
